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30% of those are strongly opposed to path to citizenship. on the other side, if you look at people who favor that, intensity numbers, those who strongly favor it are 13%. much lower. >> it shows you that height now it's probably okay for republicans to oppose this. the demographics are against the republicans. over the long-term they have to solve this problem. >> bret: last word. >> i think the republicans have to demonstrate sincerity. and to propose measure where if the governors of the four states not the federal government, not obama or democrats were to say that the border is actually se...

30% of those are strongly opposed to path to citizenship. on the other side, if you look at people who favor that, intensity numbers, those who strongly favor it are 13%. much lower. >> it shows you that height now it's probably okay for republicans to oppose this. the demographics are against the republicans. over the long-term they have to solve this problem. >> bret: last word. >> i think the republicans have to demonstrate sincerity. and to propose measure where if the governors of the four states not the federal government, not obama or democrats were to say that the border is actually se...

They want to say yes. voting is an active affirmation. saying yes is basically the kind of expression that when you vote for an incumbent you're saying yes, things are fine i want to keep going in this direction. the wrong track numbers are bad for the president and his party over the big issue, big economic issues are very bad for the president and his party. it may be, looking at the intensity numbers mark is talking about, you saw them in june 2006 when democrats took control. you saw them back in 1994 when republicans swept in to power. those intensity numbers coupled with the broader macr...

Intensity numbers. >> there's a tsunami. >> frankly, i think 32 is the floor. it's not the midpoint and not the ceiling. i think this thing's going to going north of 32, but 32 is like the defensible number. my gut is this thing's going higher. >> that's when you saw where the poll was taken, the 60, 70 districts look at charlie's list of the most competitive ç districts. it wasn't just polling in once they say these are the tossup ones. a lot of ones were ranked right now as leaning democrat. if those go, we're up to 45, 50 seats. >> i trust you the best in the country. 32 could go up to 39...

When you start taking the bigger numbers, the intensity numbers, all these other -- >> if there's a tsunami. >> frankly, i think 32 is the floor. it's not the midpoint. it's not the ceiling. i think it will go north of 32. my gut is this thing is going higher. >> that's when you saw where that poll was taken in the 60, 70 districts. look at charlie's list of the most competitive district. a lot of those were in the ones right now ranked as leaning democrats. if those go, then, yes, we're up to 45, 50 seats. >> let's look at this other part. 32 could go up to 39. >> it could. >> and the senate ...