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Going to demagogue medicare. they'll demagogue the issue. the interest thing about the president he made that comment and it was the president when paul ryan presented it, passed the budget if april of 2011 who invited paul ryan to the speech at george washington university and absolutely blasted him for disingenuousness and in effect taking money away from seniors. exactly what he said he would don't back in january of 2010. >> bret: we will continue to talk substance at this panel. next up, dreams coming true for illegal immigrants.

Perform in their respective conventions. gop convention can be much more excite thing year than the democratic convention. democratic convention is like fireworks and light and happiness. then the republican convention with sarah palin which was fascinating dash hard for me to imagine either can be as interest thing year as they were four years ago. but it will be meaningful because these candidates will have to come out of that. here's something you are really good at on your show. that's speaking your mind. even if it stirs up controversy. why do you do that? what propels you to do that? >> ...

>> this is a different world than it was in the 1960s, when i was growing up, when you used to be able to have mom at home and dod at work. now mom and dad both have to work, unless they want to or not, and they usually have to have two jobs. and if that's the case, we'll have to have good child care in the community. >> joining me now, karen finney, msnbc political analyst. michelle, why isn't that guy, romney, a united states senator? how could he have? i mean, what a reasonable thing to say about, you know, it's not the 1960s anymore and mom and dad both have to work. >> you know, the inter...

They said that the guy left a $1.33 tip for $133 bill. they doctored a reveet, put it up on the blog. cnn, other outlets picked it up. because rich people are evil. remember? that is what we have learned. >> dana: the quote on cnn, who did it? was at it message about the 1% or the message about the conversation about the 1%? rivetting television nonetheless. >> kimberly: dramatic read. >> dana: thank you. the interest thing, the true food kitchen in newport beach, california, where this happened, they called and said this isn't true. but what i think is interesting is that they don't have evid...

Evil. they said that the guy left a $1.33 tip for $133 bill. they doctored a reveet, put it up on the blog. cnn, other outlets picked it up. because rich people are evil. remember? that is what we have learned. >> dana: the quote on cnn, who did it? was at it message about the 1% or the message about the conversation about the 1%? rivetting television nonetheless. >> kimberly: dramatic read. >> dana: thank you. the interest thing, the true food kitchen in newport beach, california, where this happened, they called and said this isn't true. but what i think is interesting is that they don't hav...