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Straighter with the american people as soon as this interference campaign happened. but because candidate trump had put it out there that the election was going to be rigged, that got in the head of obama administration officials and they felt like if they said the russians were interfering, that that would prove donald trump's theory right. so there's a lot to be learned here. >> well, you raise that example with criticism of your own party to some extent and that goes to whether working the ref also was effective, which i think is sort of a theme. while i have you, are we done talking about ...

This doesn't sound like it relates to the russia investigation. >> no, it apparently relates to the clinton e-mail investigation, which is a subsequent investigation that your chairman, devin nunes, wants to investigate next between the e-mail probe, reopening it and having another special counsel. >> the inspector general of the fbi, who is independent of the leadership of the fbi, is looking at this. i think we should wait and see what comes out of that. i don't think we should mix this with the russia probe which is still ongoing and still is looking most importantly at what we're going to ...

Of life. but does that passage sound different to you than other comments that we have heard from the president about russia? >> well, i agree with that passage, but i don't have any reason to believe that donald trump read that or actually has signed off on that. because everything he says is 180 degrees in the opposite direction. he actually acknowledged that when he saw vladimir putin at the asia summit, that he took putin at his word, that putin was not responsible for the interference campaign and thought it was insulting we had to keep even raising it with putin. thank god we have respon...

American foreign policy. what's your view of that? does russia have leverage over our president? >> well, they certainly were able to get a response from general flynn right after president obama had put sanctions in place for what they did in the interference campaign. an immediate response by general flynn. and then of course the stipulation of facts in his guilty plea shows that he was talking to individuals, senior transition team individuals at mar-a-lago. so i think when you look at the number of people, it's nearly a dozen now who had prior relationships and contacts with the russians t...

Frequently calls a hoax and something made up by the media. sessions answered very forthrightly that he trusts and believes the intelligence community's report that was published and that indeed russia has a very active interference campaign in 2016 and going forward. >> that's more of a policy issue. he said he believd our vulnerabilities included the defense department and missile system. that's a pretty sober, everyone will focus on russia investigation. that's a sober comment from the attorney general. that was on the policy question posed by sasse. is the justice department doing enough t...