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Intelligence that russia tried to interfere in the election. it is rooted in his own feelings about his own election, his insecurity that by admitting that russia did this interference campaign it would somehow delegitimize trump's electoral victory. so that's been sort of a blinder for the president. >> and joyce vance, something that speaks to your line of work, just before we came on the air our friend ken vogel at "the new york times" tweeted out this. "new court filing. rick gates is still cooperating with prosecutors and is a potential witness in the trials of greg craig for lying on ukr...

That russia did this interference campaign it would somehow delegitimize trump's electoral victory. >> and joyce vance, something that speaks to your line of work, our friend ken vogual tweeted out this. new court filing, rick gates is still cooperating with prosecutors and is a potential witness in the trials of greg craig for lying about ukrainian work, roger stone for lying about wiki leaks and paul manafort. what is the take away here? >> rick gates seems to be one of the most successful cooperators that the mueller investigation produced. i don't think that there is anything very surprisi...

This is fact according to our intelligence agencies, according to all of our intelligence agencies. it's not just former special counsel robert mueller who testified to it, but the president's own hand picked intelligence chiefs including dan coats, the soon to be former director of national intelligence who had been warning for several years now that russia is continuing to try to interfere in our election, will try to do so again in 2020 and other countries may follow suit. this is a profound serious threat to american democracy and also one that the president does not take seriously. we hav...

>> president trump getting a bit of a chuck until there while sitting next to vladimir putin and seemingly making light of the threat of russian election interference. the u.s. intelligence community said that putin, a former top russian spy, directed the 2016 coordinated interference campaign and as cnn's kaitlan collins reports, that isn't the only controversial comment that the two leaders bonded over. >> reporter: with a grin on his face, trump finally brought up election meddling with russian president vladimir putin. but as he wagged his finger, the president only offered this light-hear...

Refocus our attention on the big picture and that's russia's interference campaign and attempts to help donald trump win the election. what did you make of his comments on that regard? >> i just mentioned. i thought that was so compelling. at the very end of i had statement he he says essentially by the way folks we've been focusing on this obstruction thing. did you notice all the indictments and all the russians and election interference i found. that was my mission. that is what i found. sure enough there it was. he didn't say it in those words, he's much more subtle than that. he added tha...