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Country still mourning those killed in el paso at the hands of a white supremacist targeting latinos. does it seem as though our friend of the show adam wrote he calls it -- he said cruelty is the point. does it seem that way? >> i think the goal of these raids is very clear, and we're talking about -- your question was a good one, will they make the country safer. i think that actually what these raids are are kind of an approach of going after low hanging fruit. because i think while you've seen the trump administration, as you've said i've covered it from the beginning and, you know, presid...

Every jail and prison across the country. their parents were part of a raid, a plant, someone under investigation by i.c.e. and they were found to be under violation of immigration laws and by law this administration brought them into custody and gave them their due process and they will have their day in court. >> elliott, seeing the images of sobbing kids in a parking lot looking for their parents it is heart breaking. your a former assistant director of i.c.e. is this common practice? >> look, the whole idea these are laws and we're just enforcing the laws is the biggest red herring there i...

>> i think the goal of these raids is very clear, and we're talking about -- your question was a good one, will they make the country safer. i think that actually what these raids are are kind of an approach of going after low hanging fruit. because i think while you've seen the trump administration, as you've said i've covered it from the beginning and, you know, president trump, he ran on a platform of enforcing immigration laws and cracking down. and he's made big splashes in the area of asylum and crack down on the border quite a lot. we can talk about that all night. but when it comes to ...

Workplace, you know, investigation, the more efficient and more effective, frankly, thing to do would be to audit the business and get their records and get their files and determine their intent in hiring people. but what the administration has done is make a choice to frighten people and to sort of cast a very broad wide net as to how they conduct their immigration enforcement. but we should just debunk the idea that the mere fact that federal law says it's impermissible to be in the country therefore every immigrant ought to be constantly living in terror of being apprehended because that's...

Is being it detained or whose parent is potentially in trouble with the law is going to cry. and if we're going to use that as the reason not to enforce existing laws or to seek justice with people violating laws or immigration laws, we're going have to open up every door of every jail and prison across the country. their parents were part of a raid, a plant, someone under investigation by i.c.e. and they were found to be under violation of immigration laws and by law this administration brought them into custody and gave them their due process and they will have their day in court. >> elliott...