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Security? >> well, i think, you know, the border security, i think has been given the appropriate attention. i think we also need to realize that the reason we're in this situation, because for decades, we haven't had interior enforcement. millions of people have come into the country illegally, and now bringing in those they left behind. the catch and release policy for decades that we had was, you know, give a very negative outcome for our country because we release people by the thousands at the mexico/u.s. border. they never appeared for hearings and ultimately what we have in the country ...

Number one, it's just one of the concepts in enforcing immigration law and our national security. we have 700 miles. there's certainly remote areas that are used by smugglers, used by people coming into the country and if you were to ask field agents out along the border, they would all concur that more is needed. we don't need a wall from san diego to brownsville, texas, but there are areas that are wide open, effective. that's one of the components that's needed. the second component is technology, and border patrol agents out in the field, it's a combination of things that are needed for bo...

Policy moving forward. >> good question. i don't know. i think if you look at the john kelly interview, some of what he found his success to be was stopping the president from doing things. i serve with mick mulvaney. i know mick mulvaney. he is smart and he has good judgment. at times i don't always agree with his policy decision, but i tend to think when folks get in these administrative positions, they are trying to make sure that they are serving the president as best as possible and protect any president from their worst instincts. i want to go back to what molly said and i want to take y...

Joining me now i stephen miller, senior policy advisor to president trump. does the president feel like this is like the sand in the hourglass that slipped through that little tiny hole? >> not at all. the bill you mentioned would have been a total catastrophe and guided interior enforcement permanently forever. we've already built over 100 miles of the wall. this stand we are taking right now with the entire nation watching and frankly the whole world watching is a stand we think we are going to win. >> laura: the fact-checker say your border will claim the president said a lot of it is alrea...

Does the president feel like this is like the sand in the hourglass that slipped through that little tiny hole? >> not at all. the bill you mentioned would have been a total catastrophe and gutted interior enforcement permanently forever. we've already built over 100 miles of the wall. this stand we are taking right now with the entire nation watching and frankly the whole world watching is a stand wenk think we are going to win. >> laura: theau fact-checkers say your border will claim the president said a lot of it is already built was not true. >> the fact-checkers typically are wrong about ...