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>> dan: a brief follow-up with you, i agree with you that in the past both parties move back to the center, but now that it's getting harder with the internet generation and social media. it is all on tape now. everybody raising their hand, that will be used over and over. that was not the case 30 years ago where you could flip in a comment here and there. >> i don't think it will come down to left or right people looking at a debate and saying, who raise their hand. you know that in -- >> but you know how they will show. the donald trump campaign is going to play that and put that in the ad. ...

Few seconds. i agree with you that in the past bothto parties move back to the center in the general but now that's getting harder with the internet generation, it's all on tape now. everybody raising their hand, that's going to be used over and over. it wasn't the case 30 years ago where you could slip in a comment here and there. >> i don't think it's going to come down to left or right people looking at a debate and seeing who raised theiray hand. if we look at this -- >> you know how campaigns work. >> the numbers -- >> they are going to put that in and add all those democrats raising thei...

Grabbing all guns and it's had an effect. it has had an effect on rural americans, don't you think? >> i think it's one thing that they use to paint democrat in particular of being too liberal but it's one of a lot of things. tom barrett was not talking about guns in that race. that's not the reason he lost. there were other reasons that he lost that we regret. the fact is we have mayors who understand if you do the right thing, politics will take care of themselves. they run and they win. >> what do they hope to achieve. >> first thing is, maybe close to 50% get a background check. >> that's ...

In case you were not aware today is green monday. the second monday of december is considered to be one of the busiest online shopping days of the year. experts say that it may even top cyber monday, monday after thanksgiving when online sales this year hit $1.2 billion. meantime, shippers are geared up today to deliver all of those online orders. msnbc's brian shactman joins us live from fedex. if you don't send it today does it mean it does not get there on time? what's the deal here? >> i don't know why today is the biggest day for fedex, december 12 always has been. you can still go to the...

To determine what is torture and what is not torture. that is the critical consideration. >> mitt romney and former u.s. bam ambassador to china jon huntsman addressed the current and future relationship with china. >> we can't just sit back and let china run all over us. people say you'll start a trade war. there's one going on right now, folks. they're stealing our jobs and we're going to stand up to china. >> what should we be doing? we should be reaching out to our allies and constituent sis within china, the young people, the internet generation. >> joining me for more is james holman. >>...