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Country and killing a lot of people. that's why they turned off their internet system so nobody can find out. if the media would go there. it is hard for the media to go there right now. they're killing a lot of people. but nato has come a long way in three years and it's something that we're very proud of because we're with them. nato serves a fantastic function if everybody is involved. if they're not involved -- i really believe that the president is very much involved and likes the idea of nato but he wants it also to be utilized properly. if it's not utilized properly we all agree, right,...

>> sandra: let's bring in the 24/7 crew. what is the deal with this? >> i love this story of the cyber command story partially because i was watching sky this weekend, the james bond movie, and i was thinking as i was watchin like some point this is potentially going happen where you get a rogue character who gets this super fast internet connection with servers and just starts going. and if you think about how much of our lives now are dependent on the internet and interconnected computers with banking or booking plane tickets or -- the simplest of tasks, having your groceries delivered, if y...

The shooter in san bernardino was a radicalized american. >> correct. >> you've said momentarily keep the muslims from entering the united states. that said, would you spend any other constitutional rights for muslim americans, such as gun ownership, anything like that? >> i would look very seriously at the people that are here that are becoming radicalized. they're using our internet system better than we do, and we're the ones that invented it. and i would certainly get all of the geniuses from silicon valley together and we will put a stop to a lot of the things that are going on. where the...

Controlled not by the pilots in the cockpit, but by a passenger seated in the cabin. this man, chris roberts, a cyber security consultant tells the fbi he did just that to expose aircraft cyber vulnerabilities. in this affidavit, roberts says he issued a command that "caused one of the airplane engines to climb, resulting in a lateral or sideways movement of the plane." >> absolutely a flight crew would notice extraneous input to their airplane albeit engine controls or flight controls. >> reporter: roberts claims on multiple occasions he reached under one of the passenger seats to what's call...

With the ability to do substantial damage to an institution like sony or steal the f-35 plans as the chinese did. terrorists are not at that point but they could get there. there is a twitter feed which is insignificant in the grand scheme of things but certainly that's the trend where we're seeing terrorists experimenting with these kinds of attacks. >> they could get into the white house computer system and might be able to get into the pentagon system as well. you used to work there. what do you think? >> absolutely wolf. it has to do with the unclassified servers. again, you have the class...