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Started with enhanced interrogation techniques of a number of detainees. there were two in particular, but khalid shaikh mohammed did not accept the fact that he knew the courier but he did send a note to his fellow detainees telling them not to say anything about the courier which told us a lot about the courier. so, i am i convinced having read all the intelligence that in fact, the information obtained from enhanced interrogation led to the eventual kill of bin laden and the destruction of the al qaeda organization that attacked us on 9/11. >> let me share with you, remind you of john mccai...

The rms satanic. >> the search for bin laden and the titanic. can you kind of combine them both. >> you can believe this crap we have to go through? >> no, i can't. >> just for smoking the worse guy on the planet earth. it's unbelievable. >> bill: i'm glad you asked me that question. this is what i can't believe. i can't believe that in the face of all the evidence that coerced interrogation led to very strong evidence that, in part, led to bin laden's demise. that the people who oppose it say, you know what? that's right. it happened. we don't really like this technique but controlled in the ...

The rms satanic. >> the search for bin laden and the titanic. can you kind of combine them both. >> you can believe this crap we have to go through? >> no, i can't. >> just for smoking the worse guy on the planet earth. it's unbelievable. >> bill: i'm glad you asked me that question. this is what i can't believe. i can't believe that in the face of all the evidence that coerced interrogation led to very strong evidence that, in part, led to bin laden's demise. that the people who oppose it say, you know what? that's right. it happened. we don't really like this technique but controlled in the ...

The rms satanic. >> the search for bin laden and the titanic. can you kind of combine them both. >> you can believe this crap we have to go through? >> no, i can't. >> just for smoking the worse guy on the planet earth. it's unbelievable. >> bill: i'm glad you asked me that question. this is what i can't believe. i can't believe that in the face of all the evidence that coerced interrogation led to very strong evidence that, in part, led to bin laden's demise. that the people who oppose it say, you know what? that's right. it happened. we don't really like this technique but controlled in the ...

Chief pa net attachment now, you rejected all of that all of it you rejected. >> no and i will tell you why. >> bill: you don't have to tell me why because you already told me why. >> did not link bin laden to torture. >> bill: if someone rejects six primary sources on the record as saying the information we received under coerced helped us, then they don't have really anything else to counter that. kool-aid drinker. >> the truth is, to be fair. >> bill: yeah. >> we don't know what led to getting bin laden. we don't know if enhanced torture did it. jeff brennan counter terrorism official for b...