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Cia's interrogation program. they pulled out of the investigation soon after it began when they saw what direction it was heading. now, former vice president dick cheney has come out ahead of this report defending the government's decisions at the time. and of course, former president bush ii has been quick to defend the interrogation methods and all the people involved. take a listen. >> we're fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the cia serving on our behalf. these are patriots. whatever the report says if it diminishes their contribution to this country it is way off base. i kne...

Misleading information it they think the captors will believe it. i know they say whatever they think the torturers want them to say if they believe it will stop their suffering. most of all, i know the compromise is that which most distinguishes us from the enemi enemies. our belief that all people and each captured enemies possess basic human rights protected by international conventions the united states not only joined, but for the most part authored. i know too that bad things happen in war. i know in war good people can feel obliged for good reasons to do things they would normally objec...

Did these techniques stop terror attacks? today, senators of both parties said no. >> coercive interrogation techniques did not produce the vital, otherwise unavailable intelligence the cia has claimed. >> i know from personal experience, that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good in intelligence. and what the advocates of harsh and cruel interrogation methods have never established, is that we couldn't have gathered as good or more reliable intelligence from using humane methods. >> but today cia directors for president bush wrote for the "wall street journal" insisting these...

Intelligence officials have said it doesn't work. john mccain doesn't believe it works. so people with some expertise make that case. this report should be -- >> i think a common sense answer is, it depends. >> chris, i think you're right. but i would also say this, and i'm going to press this point. i do not favor torture. i do think there is such a thing as coercive, aggressive interrogation methods, short of torture, that work in the hands of a professional who knows how to get somebody to understand they will not get the comfort they want unless they are cooperating. and the way it works, ...

Last night. he really -- he's talking about a post-staten island reality that we're now in, in this country. everyone has called for a national conversation. it sounds like that's where we are now and president obama seems to be willing participant of what he can do in terms of the law that's still an open question. >> you bring up rand paul. i thought it was good. john boehner came out and talked about this. republicans haven't talked about race in the past. and glad they are starting to. let's talk about politics and capitol hill. report is expected today in the cia's use of interrogation ta...