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Torture. dianne feinstein is chair of the intelligence committee on the senate side and she doesn't like it. the bush people, as a group, say it works. i'm not for it. it looks like it is murky. your view? >> i'm somebody who is against torture but i don't think all coercive, harsh, stressful interrogation procedures are necessarily torture. i think what we know in this instance, or at least the evident is pretty strong is that harsh interrogation methods, particularly of khalid sheikh mohammed, and abu farah al libbi, gave the first information that led to the trail that led to bin laden. >> ...

Those years, doesn't like torture. dianne feinstein is chair of the intelligence committee on the senate side and she doesn't like it the bush people as a brown say it works, i'm not for it. it looks like it is murky. your view? >> i'm somebody who is against torture but i don't think all coercive, harsh, stressful interrogation procedures are necessarily torture. i think what we know in this instance or the evidence is pretty strong is that harsh interrogation methods, particularly of khalid shaikh mohammed and abu farad al jibby gave the first information that led to the trail that led to bi...

This is murky. i'm getting almost like a rorschach test, depending who you ask, you get different responses. john mccain, of course, who was a prisoner all those years in vietnam at the hanoi hilton, of course, was tortured many of those years, doesn't like torture. dianne feinstein is chair of the intelligence committee on the senate side and she doesn't like it. the bush people, as a group, say it works. i'm not for it. it looks like it is murky. your view? >> i'm somebody who is against torture but i don't think all coercive, harsh, stressful interrogation procedures are necessarily torture...

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>> he was describing water boarding as inconsistent with american values in a november 2007 interview, brennan also told cbs news, quote, there has been a lot of information that has come out from interrogation procedures but the agency has in fact used a real hard-core terrorists, it has saved lives. given his track record, a former senior intelligence official whether he could get himself for it. >> bret: chuck hagel a veteran of the vietnam war where he was wounded. he incurred political bruises when he opposed president bush's surge in iraq. a look at the hagel record and what it could mea...