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Assistant for condoleeza rice, and with the national security council. i saw this report and i am like, okay, there is nothing new. we know this. don't we? >>guest: well, that is right. and it is important to keep in mind that nato spokesman have said this is not actually an analytical piece by western intelligence ages. it is a compilation of interrogation reports and reflect the views of taliban prisoners but the actual conclusions, what we heard general from general clapper and general petraeus, was not rosy, either. they said while the taliban is on the retreat in those areas where we put ...

Interviews of witnesses involved with the interrogations. >> you weren't interviewed? >> i was never interviewed, no one ever contacted me. i don't believe anyone in the white house or justice department were ever interviewed for this report. it is stunning, it is as if you had a trial and the judge said only the prosecution gets to put on the case and no witnesses can be put on. >> why are you convinced we did get actionable intelligence that saved lives. what convinced you? >> you can look at the report itself, what the cia directors have said on the most important issue. you mentioned it in...