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That the hig was not operational, even though the administration said in august it would replace c.i.a. controversial program, which used harrial interrogation tactics in the bush administration. bond said the hig should be used domestically. >> as far as we could tell, they would set up a high value interrogation unit overseas. not in the united states. i hope it's changing. >> the administration points to case of shoe bomber richard reid to justify handling of abdulmutallab but critics say it's a bad comparison. military commissions were authorized in november of 2001, bush administration of...

Remember christmas day it seems to me almost like a little bit of who is on first that information about what happened in detroit, the president wasn't notified for several hours later not the president's fall. i don't think secretary gates the secretary of defense was brought into any of the decision-making. it almost seems like we don't know the process once something very suspicious terrorist activity happens almost like we don't know what we are supposed to do in terms of the process. >> i know what we are supposed to do. we should have had an interrogation unit, high value unit set up tha...

Senate on what happened with farouk, the christmas day bomber and that clearly republicans knew that this guy was an fbi custody and he would be mirandized even though he did not specifically outline that. >> did he call you that day? >> i talked to him on christmas night. >> did he tell you that the fbi arrested him? >> le said that the guy was in custody and talked about the attack on christmas day, and that this guy was being questioned. and that was about it. he did not have -- >> well, let me press you on that congressman, hoekstra, because if he says that the fbi has him in custody, can ...

>> somebody is supposed to set up the high-value detainee interrogation unit. if mr. brennan spent as much time doing that last year as getting into the political battles this year we would have been a lot safer. >> the white house calls bond's attack "pathetic." our panel, eliot spitzer, along with brian darling director of senate relations with the heritage foundation. what is your view of the politics of this and the policy of this? >> the politics of it are that is has happened is that the administration and brennan lashed out at critics of the administration and say if you criticize this ...

Happen. i said, the most important thing is to change the policy. he said, what about john brennan? i said, the most important thing is to change the policy. i will continue to talk about it until he changes the policy. he said, well, if they change the policy, what about brennan? i said, the people who have implemented that policy probably should be changed too. i think that the entire operation needs to be turned around. there are so many mistakes that have been made in the last year, our country is a lot -- >> but it wasn't brennan that made the decision no mirandaize, it was muller and hol...