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Embrace or allow pro-life women to join them and that march. so it was really very political from the beginning, when it comes to liberalism or left-wing politics versus women's welfare. >> tammy: right. while i disagree with much of the politics, if not all of the politics that the women's march, i do stand by their right to peacefully protest behind leaders that they can trust. actually tell the organization's values. while, like i said, i don't agree with them, they do say that they are for tolerance, they are for inclusion, they are poor, like you said, women's empowerment and women's righ...

Responsibility as exploiters of black and brown people. and even, according to a secondhand source, claimed jews were proven to have been leaders of the american trade." so this is some of the conspiracy theories at the 2016 inaugural women's march meeting. are you concerned about any of that? >> not even remotely concerned. the organizers have all, and it was quoted in the tablet article, they have denied that this event took place. this, again, as just an attempt to try to slow down the movement that conservatives are really afraid of. listen, if you know anything about the women's march or ...

Responsibility as exploiters of black and brown people. and even, according to a secondhand source, claimed jews were proven to have been leaders of the american trade." so this is some of the conspiracy theories at the 2016 inaugural women's march meeting. are you concerned about any of that? >> not even remotely concerned. the organizers have all, and it was quoted in the tablet article, they have denied that this event took place. this, again, as just an attempt to try to slow down the movement that conservatives are really afraid of. listen, if you know anything about the women's march or ...

Kind of ignored at least from this account these claims of sexual harassment. i thought she would be exquisitely sensitive to these claims, but no. >> this bubbled over into 2016 and that was an election year and i enjoyed your segment previously that just came up in the sense that this intersection analogy. when i was on the left, my first book which came out all the way back in 2001 was about how racism, sexism, and homophobia live on the left. their argument always is if we face this or it becomes public or if we act on it, it will harm the larger picture. it will harm our goals, our narrat...

Has sailed in foreign terms of where the democratic party is going. he was making the argument that joe biden doesn't offer the intersection analogy that someone like kamala harris but offered in terms of each group in the resistance. that is something they're going to have to look at. but they keep pulling out these far left candidates from places like california and massachusetts when really, they're going to need someone from the middle of the country or someone who at least has that background. >> lisa: do you think this is even real or is biden just sort of flirting with the idea to get a...