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By repealing obamacare. so here's the plan. you use some of that $500 billion to cover people now. so as i said on your show, you basically say it's repealed on january 1, 2019. for the next two years, you provide coverage for people so nobody loses coverage. then you come up with a plan that is market driven. this is an ideological struggle -- >> so you're saying it's not repeal and replace, it's repeal for down the road and then that pressure forces people to come up with a plan to replace? >> that sounds not only unfeasible politically but also -- >> why? >> because these people are still g...

Largest republican welfare plan in the history of the republican party. that should be a hard swallow and a hard sell. we'll see how it plays out. to get my support, we have to keep our commitments to the american people. we promise that we were going to repeal obamacare. the house leadership plan is not a repeal of obamacare, it keeps substantial parts of obamacare in place, it copies owe repackages other parts of obamacare. a repeal bill is like what congressman steve king out of iowa has, nice two page bill, the affordable care act is repealed effective such and such a date. what we have on...

Covering people across state lines, allowing interstate competition, whatever that plan looks like, we haven't seen it. republicans are putting themselves on the clock for a certain number of years before they phase out what exists today and replace it with whatever they plan to come up with. >> dana bash, douglas brinkley, reid wilson, thanks to all of you. 20 million people want know what happens if obamacare is entirely repealed. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn's medical correspondent, and j.b. silvers, welcome to both of you. j.b., you're an expert in the insurance industry. i talked to jim demint i...

Say, sure, whatever you want? >> the insurance companies don't have to go along unless they want to stay in business. what we have to do is create competition. donald trump has talked about more competition across state lines, which we have not allowed in the past. we can create a vibrant insurance market that will make health insurance much more affordable and create a lot more choices. >> so who has that plan? who has that plan? because, you know, republicans in congress have voted to repeal obamacare 60 times. they were supposed to come up with some sort of plan to replace it. but they have...

The president and administration they had several years to get obamacare right. the republicans have also had several years to figure out what an alternative would look like. why is it taking so long? >> well, we haven't had, democrats control, starting in 2006 controlled both houses of congress. we won the house back in 2010. the house has, is introduced and passed a series of things. >> including all or partial repeals of obamacare but also things that we are for through the house of representatives. most of those things we can't get voted on because democrats in the senate block it. they bl...