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2008 as republican this time, paul shook up the early debate on domestic policy. >> tell me three federal programs you consider wasteful and would eliminate? >> i'd start with the department, the department of education, department of energy and homeland security. we spend so much money now we have to boar renearly $3 trillion a day from foreigners to take care of our consumption. we can't afford that. >> on foreign policy -- >> i believe you're the only one on the stage that opposes war with iraq. are you out of step with the party? >> the party has lost their way. conservative wing always ad...

The intervention policy. i disagree with the characterization of the mutual aid organization that i had written about. i had looked at 65 paternal societies mutual aids groups that provide welfare. >> you have written is book about this? >> only five cease operations are during the great depression, that and at the end of the great depression they were devoting more money to social welfare than they were before the great depression. what hurt him was he had 10 years double dig get unemployment so people couldn't take dues. >> explain the mutual aid society? >> these were mutual insurance organ...