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Campaign, stuart stevens have been working with him since the first moment with brett bayer and you saw him try to rectify it by going on other fox interview shows. he knows he has this problem, they know he does. >> how would you describe it? >> it's exactly what you said. if it isn't going -- it's like he's the chairman of the board and some new board member who is not supposed to speak in this meeting said something about the stock price that made everyone uncomfortable. it's -- >> speak to your direct report, young man. >> exactly right. it's this -- i can't believe this is happening to mh...

A guy people are going to tune in and go who is that? and why is he speaking so funny? >> what did you think when you heard that? >> i just heard it last night. david letterman did the same thing basically saying this is some guy we've never heard of. clearly you are at the cutting edge of popular culture. america's got talent been number one for five years. >> you're very well-known in england for your interview shows and journalism, not so much here. you're known as -- >> judging piano playing pigs. >> i have judged 11 pigs in britain's got talent and america's got talent. when a pig comes u...

About floating a sinking ship, what do i want to bring on it? a guy people are going to tune in and go who is that? and why is he speaking so funny? >> what did you think when you heard that? >> i just heard it last night. david letterman did the same thing basically saying this is some guy we've never heard of. clearly you are at the cutting edge of popular culture. america's got talent been number one for five years. >> you're very well-known in england for your interview shows and journalism, not so much here. you're known as -- >> judging piano playing pigs. >> i have judged 11 pigs in bri...

Serious reporter becomes a judge on talent shows. i don't know if you saw jon stewart when he was on cnn. i want to play something he said. >> by the way, i think they made a brilliant choice by bringing in a british guy no one has heard of. i think -- when i'm thinking about floating a sinking ship, what do i want to bring on it? a guy people are going to tune in and go who is that? and why is he speaking so funny? >> what did you think when you heard that? >> i just heard it last night. david letterman did the same thing basically saying this is some guy we've never heard of. clearly you are...

In caucuses where we didn't spend any time at all talking about the issue. it was how to diddle so and so on the other side. >> former senators bill cohen and sensabaugh. here we are, fast forward, and is it worse? >> it's probably about the same. i mean, the legislative process in congress has always been fairly ugly, fairly partisan. it's not like there were ever a lot of hand holding moments where everybody got along. you hear a lot of talk about after september 11 you had congress come together, both republicans and democrats, the moment where they were saying on the steps of the portico b...