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And what do gamblers do? >> double down. >> find another big bet. but the thing is, too, we can focus on the rhetoric and the f-bombs but there's something else here. he's a phony. and in 2008, he gave an interview up in new york to new york 1 and he said we need to have a reasonable dialogue with our enemies abroad and other states and he was sort of comparing himself to george bush. bush did it wrong. we need to talk reasonably to people. >> right. >> now three years later, what is he saying? i'm the guy to take off their f'g back sides and completely different. this guy will say anything. >...

Ivy showed you these words. it was from 1990 interview. at the time by the u.n. secretary-general for the earth summit. she now one of board of directors. this is what he said. small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principle of risk on is the actions of rich countries. in order to save the planet, group decides the only hope that the industrialized civilizations collapse? i want to be very clear here because we talked to the reporter that did this interview up in canada. i want to be very clear. he was fantasize about the plot of a novel. i want to show you a list of novels th...