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Getting the, gun firearm identification. you have to go to the hospital and autopsy the victims and get all of the projectiles and match them to the guns. it is a study in police forensic science interviewing techniques and sweeping his media. interviewing all his confederates neighbors. people who know him. to build the case because he is alive, so now there is going to be a case. there is clearly a state murder case if you kill five people. but if he is the, motive we are not sure yet. they're saying. but if it isn't it is prove-able than it can be a federal hate crime charges as well. so wi...

Forward, and i think he thinks he's business -- his best advocate. obviously, bob woodward's going to put out, it's all on the record, and it just goes to show, to shine a light on what this trump media experience -- howard: it also -- >> -- the love affair. howard: love/hate affair. it also tells us something about wood war's interviewing techniques. he said his wife said that he crossed an ethical line talking about the pandemic by telling trump you should come out with a pull mobilization like the manhattan project. whether he crossed the line or not, you get to see both of them going at it...

Happened here? >> absolutely. that was exactly the break and the little bit of light you look for in your investigation. >> what do you think the mistake was that he made? >> this day and age with all the surveillance accuracy that are availab available. we heard about that in the news, that cameras do capture that. in addition to the cameras they still had to rely on the evidence that they collected and skillful interviewing techniques and looking for those pieces and parts that were part of the devices that the bomber made. >> part of the concern is even though he's dead, he could have sent ...

Being processed and they are being released and many of them, you know, they don't show up to immigration court hearings and blend into the wood work. what i'm saying is let's take a humane but practical approach, set up refugee camps, bring judges to adjudicate and bring in judges that know child sensitive interviewing techniques and let's give these kids attorneys because you can't ask them to go before an immigration judge and get full due process if they don't have an attorney by their side. we are currently propping up five-year-olds, seven-year-olds in immigration courts and if you're a ...

Called to say congratulations about the show. >> greta, it's kris jenner. >> oh, that's fun. >> i hear you're going to have a new time slot where it's a little bit earlier. is that right? >> yep, it's right now in fact. it's 7:00 p.m. eastern. so when you come to town, we can go out to dinner afterwards. >> every time i come to town you have to work. >> greta, i'm so proud to be part of this. i wish you luck in this great new time slot. >> i learned all my interviewing techniques from you sitting next to you in the other makeup chair at cnn. and i appreciate all you've done for me. >> greta, n...