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france has had little rain in the last few weeks, and water levels have dropped alarmingly. spain has also suffered from the drought. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. nicaragua's veteran autocratic leader daniel ortega has been locking up political dissidents for years now. he has a new tactic — mass deportation and withdrawal of citizenship from those who dare to criticize him and his family. my guest today is felix maradiaga, who was recently taken from his nicaraguan prison cell and flown to america. the good news is he's been reunited wit...

They become what they hate. so we need to break that cycle of violence. and the only way to do that is by not hating those who persecute us, who put us into prison, and rather, try to work out of reconciliation and out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and...

And the only way to do that is by not hating those who persecute us, who put us into prison, and rather, try to work out of reconciliation and out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicarag...

Those who persecute us, who put us into prison, and rather try to work out of reconciliation, out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicaraguan. how can you not hate daniel 0rtega after thi...

You said, "i have been doing a heart audit, "a heart audit to make sure that we come out of this "horrendous place without emotional scars that "would hinder the work that is still to be done." what do you mean by this "audit of the heart"? i think it is very personalfor me. my father was a political prisoner. he was tortured under the somoza dictatorship. later, during my years as a young kid, i was a refugee in the united states for another situation, the civil war of nicaragua. and what i've noticed is that nicaragua has a cycle of violence. those who fight the dictatorship at the end, they...