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Tonight, boston and new york, one the site of a terror attack, the other where police say the suspects planned to strike next. john miller is back with me now. john, when you said there were no trigger points that could have alerted people to the tsarnaev brothers, of course, we did have these apparent warnings to the fbi about tamerlan, the older boy, and also to the cia and now we know a warning about the mother. are those not enough to trigger real alarm bells? >> well, they're not really warnings. what they were was inquiries. what comes into the fbi in march of 2011 from the russian fsb i...

Paradigm and that is we've gone for more than a decade of al qaeda, al qaeda is running the plot, al qaeda affiliates are driving the plot, al qaeda lures the radical overseas, trains him as a bomb maker, zazi, the new york subway plot, shahzad, but when you go from al qaeda to al qaedaism, you have people who are self-starters just on the internet. they may never make contact or meet anybody from al qaeda. so now you're flying so far below the radar screen that it's an awful lot harder to prevent these plots in a sense because they're not tripping any of the trip wires that you pass when you ...

Mystery character that so many family members are talking about, misha, may have been partly responsible for that. what do you make of it? >> well, he sounds so far like a charismatic recruiter. he shows up, explains the real islam, explains the jihad is obligated on a course for a true muslim, and may have even invited the elder son back to dagestan. we just don't know that yet. but it's typical for a charismatic recruiter to come in at some point and actually turn these people. but you have to look at this from the point of view of the fbi since we're talking about an intelligence breakdown....

Suspects' mother, zubeidat. the reason it's significant will be obvious once i've played it. listen to this. >> misha, everybody is talking about misha now. i don't know, misha, when misha visited us, we just kind of -- he just opened our eyes, you know, really wide about islam. he was really -- he's devoted and is very good, very nice man. >> if you put this together, bob, with the fact that we now know that the russians asked for information from the fbi about this mother, too, we're getting a picture not just of the radicalization of tamerlan, the older brother and then perhaps moving on to...

Use these bombs. so understandable that perhaps they're a little more circumspect now. what is not understandable is why the fbi appear to have had separate warnings about both tamerlan and the mother, and also the cia had a warning about tamerlan. there's been no collective assessment of this character that would imply he may be the danger that he turned out to be. >> reporter: there's a great suspicion between both sides, the russians and the americans, dating back to the cold war in many ways. the americans don't buy the russian argument that chechen militants here are any way involved in i...