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To come and restore the gulf. this is the right thing to do. >> what about you, mr. dudley? you're in houston, you're an american. it puts an american face on bp's handling of this disaster. have you not, the best of my knowledge, made any kind of gaffe in the way that tony hayward has. will you be able to better handle this from a pr perspective for the company? >> well, my concern, john, is not the pr aspect of it. communicate, make sure people know what we're doing, see the tremendous amount of resources and response we have. my job mainly is to listen very, very closely to the governors, p...

Especially after you had 11 people die on that oil rig and then you had the swedish chairman out there yesterday, who tried to make a point how the company was trying to do the right thing and referred to folks as "small people", we care about the small people. it was a little bit lost in translation. listen, bp did itself right in many people's minds, by agreeing to this $20 billion compensation fund in escrow for the recovery, and also agreed to $100 million for workers who have been put off work since this drilling moratorium that the federal government, administration, put in place. not th...

Fact that some of these men, they hadn't had sleep for 40 hours. they just watched this huge explosion. they hadn't seen their families. some of their fellow rig people died. and yet they're sort of saying sign this, do this. doesn't that look like coercion? >> no, it looks like to me good investigation skills. they didn't have to sign it. and they can explain it away. as any attorney will tell you, there is always potentially problems with a waiver. and as the gentleman and my counterpart, this other attorney is going to tell you, some of his clients did sign a waiver and they're going to see...

Everything you could do wrong, they've done. every single thing, the moment you've been investigated, they've done. i don't know how much is goldman sachs. it's an embarrassment, a disaster. you could not handle -- >> you mean from a pr perspective? >> from a legal practice. they said they were surprised about this. surprised? that's why you pay these lawyers $2,000 an hour to not be surprised. they didn't understand the state of the play of s.e.c. the s.e.c. decided to gun for people. they also have no -- they were not ready pr-wise. they come out. the battle was won. i was talking to brian w...

House deputy chief of staff for communications despite the accusations that he mishandled sexual harassment allegations at fox news. so from a pr perspective, how do you make sense of all of this? >> you don't. bill shine was head of one of the most corrupt cultures at fox news. he was let go because of that under roger ailes. and so i guess he has tremendous experience with a dysfunctional corrupt culture which he will probably find at the u.s., so maybe he will have experience with that, but he doesn't have experience of being a communications director for a political campaign and certainly ...