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15 million jobs. so we are in the hole, you know -- we are in the hole now, you know, about 6 million jobs. yeah, no doubt. >> so there is no empirical support to the idea that tax cuts will ipso facto create jobs. what they really do is increase the savings of wealthy people who invest money, not necessarily in new businesses, some of the money would go into new businesses but most of it goes into financial assets and has caused a boom in the financial mark elets and financ assets and jobs. what we need are people like steve jobs to create real jobs. >> you bet. daniel berger, thank you for b...

>> neil: i heard the early party what have you said loudly and clearly, that he can do this. whether we're whining or clang about it, ipso facto done. >> he can. now,. >> neil: wait, stop, i'm not as smart as you and i'm not a lawyer, though i've watched a lot of law and order. if you're right, if you're right, millions of people here illegally will, with the brush of the president's pen, be granted legal status. >> that's possible, what happens next is the congress oversight committee will be step in to see if the president overstepped his boundaries in making legislation, which is not one of...

It's a catch 22. they work cheaper than the people here illegally, first time to the united states and they're here illegally. they're knocked out of job and food service and entry level jobs. i talk to -- i've been to the arizona border twice with mr. combs and to the border recently and talked to people there from all over the world. germans, from china, from all over the world. they're -- they came here legally and want something done. let me give you an example. >> neil: i wish we could. we're on a hard break. thank you very much. did the government admit we were right about toyota? we wer...

Author, journalist and fox news contributor, liz trotta. how did the media do? >> good morning, gregg. well, of course, the media was all over itself this week. this is a huge story. taking the focus back to the war in afghanistan with a hearing. one of the more remarkable pieces appeared on line friday and in "the new york times," on line "new york times" friday and then in the newspaper this morning. by frank ridge, not necessarily one of fox's friends, by the way. but it is -- he says -- listen to this, he says we now know thanks to hastings, that's michael hastings, the author of "the roll...

If you don't sign for the healthcare reform -- >> it's not a tax but something more you're paying to the government that you weren't paying before and it's going to hit the middle class. ipso facto, who cares, you're paying more. >> first, remember 80% of the people uninsured will not pay because -- >> neil: i'm not saying that. for those 4 million under the 250,000, is it fair to say they are going to be paying more to the government? yes or no? >> under this policy, yes. but under the entirety of the -- >> neil: wait, wait, i'm just saying -- i love you dearly, you're paying more to the gove...