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cnn's michael holmes is live there in iraq. michael, what are you seeing? >> hey, victor, the progress is still there, but there are still towns to be taken and security. you know, overnight, there was some confusion, too, about the pace of this offense, you had american officials saying on friday that iraqis would be pausing on some fronts to allow other units to catch up, sort of consolidate their positions on the approach to mosul. but almost immediately, you had iraqi commanders saying, that's not so. the u.s. comments were inaccurate. meanwhile, on the battlefield, you've got the popular mobilization units. these shia paramilitaries. they announced that they are entering the fray, launching operation west of mosul to, quote, in their words, cut isis' supply lines. and that's going to put thousands more fighters in one area where isis has been able to cross back and forth from iraq to syria and vice versa. of course, syria, where the de

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government and security forces to stabilize the situation, and it is going to take years. we can walk away from it, and we will get what we got in iraq. >> and basically to what happened before the u.s. got involved in huge number, because it is looking gloomy right now. ambassador crocker always good to get your perspective, and thank you very much. >> thank you, wolf. >> up next, more on the breaking news, and russia launch iing ai strikes for the first time in inside of syria, and if they aret no targeting isis, then who are they targeting? i will be speaking with the chairman of the armed services committee max thornberry when we come back. woman: my mom and i have the same hands.

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let's get back to the breaking news. our top story is russia launching air strikes against targets in syria, but the icsil is not believed to be the target s. and joining us is the chairman of the armed services committee max thornberry, and thank you for joining us, and you are well briefed on what is going on, and what is russia doing to launch these air strikes in homs where there are not apparently a whole lot of isis troops. >> russia is there to support assad, and it is very clear even though he has, and he is a murderer and he has used chemical weapons against his own people, and russia sees them as a proxy, ally to be supported against all enemies whether it is eisis or whether it is the more moderate forces that we are supporting. so i think that you are seeing a weak inadequate u.s. policy

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think? >> i fear that you would see something similar to what we are seeing in iraq, a complete unraveling. kunduz is not that unravel iingt a least not yet. it is a one city and major setback, but it is not a taliban sweep all through afghanistan as we did with the islamic state in iraq. so we are positioned is with our forces there, with the commander s there to help the afghans steady out, and then one hopes to retake the city. without us there, what is bad news to day would be far worse tomorrow. >> and billions of dollars spent to train the afghan and iraqi troops as well, and a lot of people are wondering why to send that kind of money over there if after the u.s. leaves and at some point the u.s. will leave, it is simply going to go back to

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potentially carry out attacks in russia? >> well, they have multiple reasons to do that and the first is that they have foreign fighters there to dwarff what we have seen travel from america, and they have had a longstanding problem with extremist, and there is a secondary reason for putin to be there, and that is to train the isis people coming in. and i have to agree with the general, this is not about isis, but it is the reinstitution of the russian state, and in the soviet empire, you had from iraq to syria and egypt, and this is p putin to say, i am back the play, and you can't do anything about it, and if you try to get in the way, i am going to go anyw anyway. and so this is clear what putin sup to. >> and in is part of the breaking news, russia launching air strikes inside of syria. and also coming up, more w

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either the taliban in afghanistan or the militias taking over, and pro iranian militias or whatever in iraq? >> the argument i would make, wolf, is precisely that. it is about the u.s. leaving. it does not work to pushing a whole lot of money into standing up a major military and then to say, you are on your own. this can be a multi year, and even a generational process. and its chances of success are tied to the commitment that we are going to make to make it work. and i'm not talking about sending back in the 101st airborne to afghanistan or to iraq. i am simply saying that we need to make the commitment to a sustained presence, a sustained commitment to helping the afghan

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lenin, probe with the bayonet, and when you encounter mush, continue, and if you hit steel, stop. >> so when you hear secretary of state john kerry speak, he says that maybe there sis an opportunity to fight isis with coordination of russia and maybe iran. what is your reaction? >> despair, because what that means is that our secretary of state is willing to turn over leadership in the world to a coalition of russia and iran to back up syria. it is is very concerning. you know, what it looks like to me is that the administration is willing to just run out the clock, and even though they have gotten a year-plus left, they don't want to engage. they will just sit back and let whatever happens happen, but the

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>> macthornberry, the chairman of the armed services committee. and now, blasting president obama for not taking enough action by senator john mccain. you will hear that, and also, more on syria launching air strikes within syria coming up.

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problem is that the world is spiraling increasingly out of control, and it does not look like this white house is even wanting the do something and it. >> and on top of all of this, the awful situation unfolding in syria, the humanitarian plight, and what is going noniraq, and look at what is going on in afghanistan, mr. chairman, right now, and a large city kunduz, and 300,000 people, and the city the size of approximately cincinnati right now, and the taliban regaining control. afghan forces are e fleeing, and thousands of civilians evacuating and getting out of there right now despite the tense of billions of dollar s that the u.s. spent in training these afghan troops. how disheartening is that to you? >> well, it is very discouraging. i was interested in your conversation with am bbassador crocker a few moments ago. and remember, and i think that he is exactly right, this is head headed towards another situation like we had in iraq, and remember that the military had a plan for how many people they wanted to the stay in afghanistan to provide this

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years, for years that assad must go, but he has done nothing that has brought us any closer to achieving that the outcome. this administration has confused our friends and encouraged the enemies, and mistaken an excessive caution for prudence and replaced the risk of actions with the perils of inaction, and into the wreckage, and into the wreckage of the middle east's policy has stepped vladimir putin as in ukraine and elsewhere, he perceives the ap administration's action as weakness, and he is taking full advantage. over the past few weeks, vladimir putin has been engaged in a significant military buildup in western syria, and d deploying strike aircraft, and by the way, he is deploying aircraft that are air-to-air and not air-to-ground. my friend, isis has no air force. the white house has said it is

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