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Ambassador raised the investigations. >> i did not think he was saying anything specific. >> you heard him say investigations, you thought it was inappropriate. i didn't know it was the bidens, i thought it was inappropriate. in the war room sondland mentioned it and you missed it, as i understand it? >> that's correct. >> then in august you spent a good part of the time with the statement with rudy giuliani, you were the guy making the changes. you put in rudy's changes which called for investigating ba ris ma and the 2016 elections which you know meant bidens, right? you didn't know it at th...

And -- >> and his son. >> that would have been inappropriate. i would have said no. in retrospect we would have been confusing, right? it would have put them in the position of having to do something inappropriate. >> i think confusing is the right word because they were clearly hearing something different from the president in one conversation and different from me as the u.s. -- >> maybe, sir, they understood that investigating ba ris ma and investigating 2016 meant the bidens, you didn't. you were putting in yurmack and the point being that they were put in an impossible position. you now k...

Referring to the statement you gave this morning -- i'm sorry, this afternoon. i did not know -- this is quoting, i did not know that president trump and others had raised vice president biden with the ukrainians or conflated it. >> correct. >> you didn't know ba ris ma meant biden, is that correct? >> i had separated the two. >> you didn't know, do we have to go through it, sir? you were there on may 23rd for the meeting with the president and he said talked to rudy. rudy cared. you missed it on may 23rd, right? >> no, sir. i understood hunter biden -- >> i understand that, but you didn't rea...

Said something different. this was a piece in july about whether or not hunter biden's business dealings would be a problem for the campaign. his age braced for renewed scrutiny of hunter's relationship with ba ris ma. the special envoy for energy panel raised the matter with biden but did not go so far as hunter leaving the bar. as hunter recalled, his hunter discussed this with his dad one time. he said, i hope you know what you're doing and he said, i do. it's not like they talked a hundred times. you have the son saying we spoke at least once and the folks in the obama administration are s...

And i have a family and four daughters and with the economy the way it's been in the last five to seven years it's been a struggle to keep everybody afloat. that resounded for me in regard to what wonderful things have been written for this character. >> in april 29th, you discussed your career and said i'm half italian, half african-american and my dream was always to be a communicator and artist. the performances were always without color, he had such dignity and passion and car ris ma. to reveal these intimate details and struggle as a man taking care of your family, what prompts you to do ...