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Not understand the cause is more important than the symptom, we'll be chasing the symptom forever. you can try and change people's opinions on other people's race, on other people from other country with immigrants or you can try and do that forever. we've seen time and time again when people are struggling they are most susceptible to ideas that will otherize other human beings >> some of these people are struggling but some aren't right? some of these people have -- >> but they've been told they are. >> maybe that's what it is the narrative of grievance. >> yeah. >> intoxicating. >> definite...

Of mine, and they're saying that i live in new york, in l. a.. i'm saying, i'm going to be there, so they said, be careful, the crime has really skyrocketed i said, where, how? how much crime? what are you talking about? they said i don't know, i've just seen some things. it really fascinates me because it made me realize, maybe i've been working in an environment so long where i have a team fact checkers, i have people who can get the numbers. most people don't live like that. most of the time, we watch something online, we see a video, a friend tells us something, it's in a whatsapp group, i...

Most of the time, we watch something online, we see a video, a friend tells us something, it's in a whatsapp group, i message. you don't question it. why would you question it? crime is going up, so it feels like going up. anytime you see something enforcing that idea, you will believe it. the irony effect in life, in america, is that the same image can have it completely different connotation depending on how people want that image to be used. for instance, you want people to be arrested, and there will be some politicians who say, see, things are getting better, crime is getting down. those ...

They said, i don't know, i've just seen some things. and it really fascinates me. it made me realize, maybe i've been working in the environment for so long that i have a team of fact checkers. most of the time we watch a video and see an ad and you don't question it. any time you see something that reinforce that's idea, you will believe it. the irony effect in louvre in america is the same image can have a completely different connotation depending on how people want that image to be used. for instance, you'll see people being arrested and some politicians who say, see? things are getting be...

I said, where, how? how much crime? what are you talking about? they said i don't know, i've just seen some things. it really fascinates me because it made me realize, maybe i've been working in an environment so long where i have a team of factors, i have people who can get the numbers. most people don't live like that. most of the time, we watch something online, we see a video, a friend tells us something, it's in a whatsapp group, i message. you don't question it. why would you question it? crime is going up, so it feels like going up. anytime you see something enforcing that idea, you wil...