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While they're not relatives, he thinks of kunkel as his cousin. >> look, there's my cousin. hey! >> is cecil a racist? >> i can't really answer that. i'm not sure. because of his tattoos? >> yeah, he's got a huge swastika on his head. >> yeah. yeah. no. i mean, that doesn't mean you're a racist, you know what i mean? that doesn't signify that you're a racist. >> what does it signify? >> that i can't talk about. unfortunately can't talk about that. >> tell me why. >> it's like kind of like our thing, you know what i mean? as far as being a convict. >> while pike wouldn't say what kunkel's tatto...

Thinks of kunkel as his cousin. >> look, there's my cousin. hey! >> is cecil a racist? >> i can't really answer that. i'm not sure. because of his tattoos? >> yeah, he's got a huge swastika on his head. >> yeah. yeah. no. i mean, that doesn't mean you're a racist, you know what i mean? that doesn't signify that you're a racist. >> what does it signify? >> that i can't talk about. unfortunately can't talk about that. >> tell me why. >> it's like kind of like our thing, you know what i mean? as far as being a convict. >> while pike wouldn't say what kunkel's tattoos signify, he has an unlikely a...

A fight with the little person and still get beat up. i mean, it kind of speak for itself. >> though kunkel has made some enemies during his time at maricopa, he also has his supporters. >> it seems like every pod you go into, there's guys after him. >> yeah. he's not a bad guy, he's just -- i don't think people like him. i don't know why. there's other people that have tattoos. you know? everybody wants to get at him. >> josh pike has known kunkel's family for most of his life. while they're not relatives, he thinks of kunkel as his cousin. >> look, there's my cousin. hey! >> is cecil a racis...

Family for most of his life. while they're not relatives, he thinks of kunkel as his cousin. >> look, there's my cousin. hey! >> is cecil a racist? >> i can't really answer that. i'm not sure. because of his tattoos? >> yeah, he's got a huge swastika on his head. >> yeah. yeah. no. i mean, that doesn't mean you're a racist, you know what i mean? that doesn't signify that you're a racist. >> what does it signify? >> that i can't talk about. unfortunately can't talk about that. >> tell me why. >> it's like kind of like our thing, you know what i mean? as far as being a convict. >> while pike wou...

Hey! >> is cecil a racist? >> i can't really answer that. i'm not sure. because of his tattoos? >> yeah, he's got a huge swastika on his head. >> yeah. yeah. no. i an, that doesn't mean you're a racist, you know what i mean? that doesn't signify that you're a racist. >> what does it signify? >> that i can't talk about. unfortunately can't talk about that. >> tell me why. >> it's like kind of like our thing, you know what i mean? as far as being a convict. >> while pike wouldn't say what kunkel's tattoos signify, he has an unlikely ally in his claims that kunkel is not a racist. >> i know some ...