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To make sure that you got every eye crossed, and every t crossed, and that's what jack smith is doing. >> well, that fraud may still be going on. i want to share with you what trump said about the situation just a few hours ago in aisle. >> we have a man, the only way to get elected is to weaponize the justice department which he's gone around doing. i don't know practically what a subpoena was, and grand juries and all of this. i am now becoming an expert. i have no choice because we have to. it's a disgrace. if you say something about an election, they want to put you in jail for the rest of...

Of where this stands today? >> i like the scope and breadth of what jack smith is doing. there were reports from another network saying look new mexico, pennsylvania, those officials are under scrutiny now. i like it because it's justice. no one should skate or walk away that had anything to do with trying to it overturn this election. submitting fake lectors. no one gets off the hook. this sets a precedent for free and fair elections. with regard to the focus on intent, look, i'll defer to glenn on the prosecutive importance of this, no question, it could be explosive if they have somebody sa...

So that's a. b, do you see the world as mostly good people where we have to figure out a way to connect and respect everyone? 75% of trump voters see the world through the lens of threats and fear and 75% of biden voters the world through a place of opportunity and hope. that is the distinguishing characteristic that we're dealing with, and that's what i think ron desantis is doing. he's making a classic error, where he runs one campaign in the primary, and then he think it is he wins the primary, which i think is unlikely, he's going to try to run a completely different campaign, if he can, i...

Investigation that is inherently political. obviously, it is not on the same plane. not the same level as barr did where you're actively going arrest people because of politics but not going after people is also a real wrong and we're suffering the consequences of it now because there has been delay and as carol rightly said, there is a race with the clock in terms of what jack smith is doing. >> we also had flash points. carol takes us inside the rooms that we would never get inside of it is a rare and possible piece of journalism. i want to pull you out a little bit on this, andrew wiceman. ...

What may or may not go forward as a result of this federal indictment? >> part of it is, you have to look at the tear of the indictments that you're talking about. alvin bragg is a very local level. it is the city of new york. jack smith is federal. fani willis would be state. letitia james's civil. so it's not criminal. so it basically breaks down among the landscape of different types of litigation and prosecutions that you could have. and at the bottom of that you are going to have state and city prosecutions, that are going to yield to what's going on at a federal level. that's why we're s...