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We are following breaking news. stunning and sweeping new charges in the russia investigation, the first ones filed for interference in the 2016 election. special counsel robert mueller has indicted 13 russians accusing them of trying to sow discord in the u.s. political system through multiple operations including supporting donald trump and disparaging hillary clinton during the presidential campaign. president trump, who has yet to say definitively that russia meddled in the election, has just arrived in florida. before leaving he responded to the mueller indictments in a tweet saying, quot...

For two and a half years, probably spent between $30 million and $40 million. a lot of their facebook and other social media things were retweeted, redone. you have to believe that it had some effect. it certainly influenced votes. whether it influenced enough votes to influence the election, that's unknowable. it would be absurd to say it didn't influence anything. they didn't spend their money for nothing and they know what they're doing. the real takeaway is that we were attacked by the russians. our democratic process, the basis of our government, our elections were attacked by the russian...

Started in 2014 but we know from the indictment that although they started out just to sow confusion, by the beginning of 2016 they were clearly telling their people we want to help trump and hurt hillary clinton. so they were clearly trying to help the trump campaign for most of 2016. whether the trump campaign was colluding with them is not dealt with in the indictment at all, so it doesn't say yes or no, although we know from other sources that certainly there were people in the trump campaign like manafort and trump jr. and jared kushner who attended a meeting with the russians, who told t...

That russians an adversarial government came into our country to set up the infrastructure to allow them to attack our election process, then i think that all americans can take a step back and say we want to see the russians held accountable for that. the big question is, why aren't we seeing that? we get caught up in this issue of collusion but we need to look at that fact from a national security perspective because we're going into another election where they will do it again. >> this is fascinating when you read this indictment. they go to texas, colorado, michigan i believe, right? >> ye...

Think the answer is no. especially i if it's the criterion you late out. if it were done to americans, would it be torture? we water boarded, in the s.e.a.l. program, we water boarded our s.e.a.l.s and we didn't consider it torture. at the beginning of the report, it so says 7 of 9 detainees produced any unique intelligence value. what about the others? there's 82% that they can't account for. the report claims with sort of a wave of the hand, there was no intelligence of value produced that we wouldn't have gotten through other means, that's unknowable. if you talk to the people involved with...