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Problem. we're all in it together and it was bipartisan because they don't believe in either party's go it alone approach on this. people back here in washington have figured out every excuse for not getting it done. it's long past time for democrats and republicans to solve this problem. >> you've got the house and senate that can't cooperate. republicans and democrats can't cooperate. you took an independent position from the senator from oklahoma, you took a conservative position. what advice do you have for them about bringing people together can this get done? >> sure. what do you think i...

Who would choose just cutting spending. how about combination of both? can you get it done? >> tax increases don't plow into new spending. problem we have tax increases is going to pay for more deficit spending. let's say we need to reduce the deficit. that is the problem. [ applause ] >> we don't want to chase higher levels of spending and higher taxes because you'll shut down the economy. >> the point ways trying to make we're putting our ideas and defining by our actions by actually writing a budget in great detail and telling the country here is what we propose to solve this problem, jobs,...

Solved comprehensively and understand it has to be balanced. the plan that tom voted for three cut and interest savings to revenue. it wasn't one to one. it wasn't more revenues and cuts but it got to a point where we're actually starting to change the trajectory of the debt over ten years. >> with all due respect, come with your own budget and compromise and come up with something. >> you are not knowing where you are spending. until you can tell me what you are spending and why you are spending it. >> the plans have put out with the exception of ron paul's plan actually make matters worse. t...