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Civilians and rescue crews and police and even troops gather, and that's when the secondary attack happens, and certainly it is hugely significant, where this took place. as i said, this is the very center of british power, within a few hundred yards of where this happened, not only have you got the houses of parliament, the house of commons, the house of lords, you've got downing street, we are reasonably close to where the anti-terror committee, c.o.b.r.a., meets on a weekly and sometimes daily basis and the ministry of defense is close by, so no, you know, it's no coincidence where this att...

Both of those organizations, in publications, they have talked about using a vehicle to attack. we've seen it happen in france. we've seen it happen in germany. what i'm told, though, at this point, is they are not certain whether it was more than one person. i think that that helps to explain the kind of accounts that we've had. in terms of what we're seeing, what we've seen, people have talked about a vehicle crashing into the barrier by their houses of parliament. you can see from the pictures there appear to be incidents along the bridge there across the thames. that would suggest that veh...

London. duncan, you heard scotland yard's briefing, the barest essentials, they don't know the incident not yet saying is over. >> that's correct. they are playing their cards close to their chest. i was in the briefing with b.j. harrington who just took that press conference only last week, in which they were preparing an exercise on the thames, in case isis or some other terror group were to launch an attack coming down the river, and now we've seen an attack coming over the river, crossing on a bridge, and it is the kind of attack that they've been prepared for. they've been prepared for ve...

With the vehicle, and then has according to reports attacked a police officer with a knife. we don't know at this stage whether it is one or more than one person, and that will be absolutely crucial, andrea. >> absolutely. keir, if you'll stand by for a moment, jeremy bash rejoining us, our nbc news national security analyst. jeremy, if you were at the cia at the right hand of leon panetta as you were as his chief of staff, what would you be doing here if our allies in the uk had just suffered some kind of an attack? >> well, we'd be getting instant updates from cia's own counterterrorism cent...

Man burst through the open gates, and attack a police offic officer. from where i was, from what i could see it looked like he was stabbing him repeatedly. he then somehow got up and began running forward towards, further into the parliamentary estate towards the entrance to westminster hall, where there are lots of police officers with, armed police officers. they then shouted some kind of warning at him, and then opened fire, shooting at least twice, possibly three times. i can't quite remember, and then that took him down straight away. >> now, how high up are you? how many floors? you had ...