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Transition away from assad after years and years and years, but at this point, as i mentioned, chris, i mean, russia controls what is going to happen in that area. >> i agree. >> they took control about nine months ago. so that's -- the next president -- >> let's take a look at the next president. >> the next president is not -- he's not sullied by the lack of decisions that have been made, and now he's in a place where he can really focus, unfortunately, on the isis component only and not really, other than negotiations, what's happening in the west. >> he's advocated a stronger role from vla...

Kurds? or do we do something in coordination with russia? the real what's left is the isis component. we unfortunately led these rebels on. we told them what we were going to do. we cheered them on. we held their coats. and this is what is left. >> what would you have done in? >> it was what was done with secretary clinton. that was to attempt to really give the moderate rebels, when there was a moderate rebel group, what they needed to push back. when the kept weapons were used, the free syrian army was on the move. they had momentum. when we decided not to carry out

Governor, i'm going to begin with you, sir. do you think the fact the debate topic changed from mostly economy to an isis component. did that hurt or help hillary clinton? >> hillary looked pretty good last night. i saw the whole debate. i thought she was in command for the entire course of the debate, although i think the debate looks so much better on our side than it does on the republican's where they say anything that comes in their head. with the exception of lindsay graham none of them know anything about foreign policy as far as i can tell. i think it helps hillary. she's got more expe...

Exhibit of caesar who was documenting this, cutting people's genitals off. this has been going on for a long time. it's almost as if, not you, but people are beginning to wake up to what's occurred, and as far as advice goes, i mean, again, russia is going to determine the outcome in the western part. so the real decision is on the eastern part where isis is, and are we, in fact, going to try to team up with the turks? are we going to team up with the arabs who are in conjunction with the kurds, or are we going to try to do something in coordination with russia? the real what's left where we c...

>> they took control about nine months ago. so that's -- the next president -- >> let's take a look at the next president. >> the next president is not -- he's not sullied by the lack of decisions that have been made, and now he's in a place where he can really focus, unfortunately, on the isis component only and not really, other than negotiations, what's happening in the west. >> he's advocated a stronger role from vladimir putin in isis and syria. >> if putin wants to go after isis, i am all for it 100%, and i can't understand why anybody would be against it. i've been looking at the differ...