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Of citizens in whom the terrorist can hide. it's hard to put them together. if you want to take attitude that's not an american fight but if we're serious about isis, it is an american fight. a serious candidate for president. including a republican candidate has to step up and say is it an american fight or not. >> let's talk about that. one of the things that confused me as well and i'm easily confused there's a present. i want to understand why. i'm curious what in the president's mind gives him that their a jv team and then friday

March by isil across the terrain. >> that's a problem. they go in, leave, some return home. it is, let me just ask you, why is the president underestimating? why do you believe, what have you heard from the contacts in the government, why does the president feel the need, the necessity to continue to underestimate the reach of isis? >> he has a deeper version in planting more american troops in the region of the world. he's going to be leaving office with a huge growing war on his hands. he's got one now. what isis acomp leacomplished t weekend is something they could do here because we more t...

Standing after all these months of air power? >> it's reminiscing to the vietnam war. this incrementalism and targets that have to be approved at the highest levels of government. it's a classic kpmexample of wh happened in the vietnam war. all these should read the papers and of course, targets have not been hit and of course, you have to get the highest level of approval. of course they return to base without having dropped their weapons. i think it's wonderful but it's not going, more of the same is not going to stop this virus and disease which will lead to threatening the united states na...

You use that phrase? >> i don't think the term is what's important. what is important to understand is we have organizations whether it's isis or al qaeda who believe we should go back several thousand years and make women third class citizens that we should allow children to be sexually assaulted. that they are a danger to modern society and that this world with american leadership can and must come together to destroy them. we can do that. >> the critiquing is the softness of language betrays a softness of approach. if this language, if you don't call it by what it is, how can the approach b...

Motivation and constantly underestimating the terror? i understand in 2012 he wanted to get re-elected. what about now? >> well, first of all, you're going to jump on me for this but isis has been territorially rolled back. so that's what i think he met when he said it was contained. secondly, i think he's mistakenly underestimated isis. so have i, so have most people. thirdly, if you're going to take on isis seriously, you're going to need to send in troops and do it with operations and military force and people are going to have to vote for him. that's tough. >> would that have happened six ...