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And then the video and strategy as a whole. is there any evidence here? this is a 50-plus video that trump's words in that call are as potent as secretary keloland says they are? >> well, suddenly as we get closer to the presidential election, you will find the terrorist groups will also be following it. they will try and seize whatever opportunity they can for propaganda purposes. keep in mind that any individual is prominent in the american political process is going to feature, barack obama, president obama has appeared in the isis material. that doesn't mean he's been saying anything that'...

Women who have been arrested supposedly had somebody for al qaeda but were reading isis material. isis and al qaeda are on two different pages. what do you make of this? >> right now, at the top levels, they are having a dispute. the women admired bin laden, according to the complaint. isis continues to regard bin laden as a heroic figure in their propaganda. it's not that unusual that we are seeing women who are drawn to isis. we have seen females from colorado from chicago, you know, being drawn to isis' propaganda propaganda which is a new development. it goes to the point that there is no ...