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It's unusual because we have the president who has the ability to grant a pardon. in other cases you might see someone encouraging a witness against them to leave town or suddenly become unavailable. but this isn't different, chris. the bizarre aspect of this is that the president and his former lawyer are going to back and forth at each other saying you're a liar, no, you're a liar. and the reality is they both are. i wouldn't want either one of them on the witness stand as a witness unless they were backed up by corroborating witnesses because there's no one to truest here without that. >> i...

The details of the negotiations that took place before in singapore and have continued since then. i think it is fair to say there are a number of things, a number of principles that have been agreed to. i think both parties understand red lines, things neither country is prepared to go past that give us an opportunity, the belief that we really might, for the first time -- this is not the first rodeo negotiating with north korea. that perhaps this time is different. we know, too, we could be wrong. and the president has said this very clearly. if this isn't different, if it is the case that c...

In the minority community that is the question that is being raised. why is this president being treated so disrespectfully? >> greta: joining us republican presidential contender and former ceo of godfather's pizza, herman cain. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> greta: congresswoman lee is saying it is racist how the president is being treated. if it is, it must be stopped. if it is not racist, she must be stopped. racist or not, because i assume as an african-american man you have seen racism. >> i have seen racism. lived through racism. i know racism when i see it. this president isn't diff...

And the 14th amendment. i do not understand what i think is the maligning and maliciousness of this president. why is he different? and in my community, that is the question that we raise. in the minority community that is the question that is being raised. why is this president being treated so disrespectfully? >> greta: joining us republican presidential contender and former ceo of godfather's pizza, herman cain. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> greta: congresswoman lee is saying it is racist how the president is being treated. if it is, it must be stopped. if it is not racist, she must be ...

Is the question that is being raised. why is this president being treated so disrespectfully? >> greta: joining us republican presidential contender and former ceo of godfather's pizza, herman cain. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> greta: congresswoman lee is saying it is racist how the president is being treated. if it is, it must be stopped. if it is not racist, she must be stopped. racist or not, because i assume as an african-american man you have seen racism. >> i have seen racism. lived through racism. i know racism when i see it. this president isn't different, he's just wrong. dead wr...