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So where are we now? >> i think he's a four-star. is petraeus a four-star general? whatever. he wasn't willing to see shinseki go until he saw some evidence. here's a guy that has a lot of soldiers who have reported to him. he knows a lot about the v.a. he says they get excellent treatment. that's enough for me. more than from you guys. >> bob, i have to tell you, every time we do this topic, you go home, you go to twitter, go to facebook. the letters that you get from just every day soldiers, nothing good to say about their treatment at the v.a. they go there and they're afraid that they're g...

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You don't really know the integrity of that casing throughout the 13,000 feet depth of the well. there could be damage anywhere along the 13,000 feet, and once you stop blocking the oil, you start clamping down on the flow at what might be 30,000 pounds per square inch of pressure, you don't know where that might blow, and i think you'd better be in position to have those relief wells ready to go or actually up and operating before you try to control the flow from the start. i think that's the debate that has to take place. >> right. do you have a sense that the united states government under ...

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