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He has changed the norms, at least for a certain percentage of the population. when we talk about this isn't normal, there are people, kids who are growing up who think this is normal. >> do you get a sense in talking to him yesterday that his degree of concern around the khashoggi issue, that he sees any connection to this conversation or is he totally detached from the effect of his own words? >> about the way he speaks about the media? >> speaks about journalists and the closeness of saudi arabia. they're not just any ally. they're his closest ally in the region. >> i think he was very impr...

We talk about norms that he shattered. norms aren't permanent. norms change and move. he's changed the norms for a certain percentage of the population. this isn't normal. kids who are growing up who think this is normal. they think this is the way the president acts. >> do you get any sense in talking to him yesterday that his degree of concern around the khashoggi issue, that he sees any connection to this conversation or is he totally detached from the effect of his own words? >> about the way he speaks about the media? no, i don't think so. >> and the closeness with saudi arabia. they are ...

A president, a view of executive power that, according to his writings and even the case law, says in his own words in an opinion, that a president should be able to declare laws unconstitutional. in his own views in legal writings that a president should be able to be immune from investigation while sitting in office. that we shouldn't have a special counsel statute. so that's where we start. that's the core here. as we look at the constitutional issues that we're facing. the second reason this isn't normal is that we did not get the information we needed to make a decision. i come from a sta...

They both think they're telling the truth. in kavanaugh's case, perhaps it is that it happened and he doesn't remember it. these are the decisions that these senators are going to have to make based often under oath testimony. so maybe one of them is lying. either intentionally or unintentionally, but they're just isn't enough information beyond just your gut instinct of who's telling the truth. which is such an unfortunate thing for this process. i think we have to say this is not normal. this is the new normal, but it isn't normal. it's really a shame that no one was behaving themselves. the...

To his writings and even the case law says in his own words in an opinion that a president should be able to declare laws unconstitutional. in his own views in legal writings that a president should be able to be immune from investigation while sitting in office, that we shouldn't have a special counsel statute, so that's where we start. that's the core here as we look at the constitutional issues that we're facing. the second reason this isn't normal is that we did not get the information we needed to make a decision. i come from a state that believes in process. in my old job for eight years...