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Sign it? >> one of the problems facing congressional negotiators. the president wants something that secures the border. in terms of specific a lot of ambiguity of what that deal needs to include. the president demanded 5.7 billion for a wall or barrier. at times the white house has shown a willingness to negotiate that figure. sunday the president didn't entirely rule out accepting less than 5.7 for the barrier but told the "wall street journal." i doubt it. i have to do it right. in terms of what the barrier looks like the president suggested he isn't set if stone saying i have to see what i...

Often does in these sort of official events he will probably say something we would expect a president to say at a moment of national peril. it's so often the things he says off the cuff, the things he tweets are far many instructive and ill lus traytive. >> the man behind this is undeniably a domestic terrorist r attempti , attempting to use the u.s. postal service to send pipe bombs to critics of the administration, all of them democrats or members of the media or philanthropists who associate themselves with progressive causes. it will be very interesting to hear the kind of language that t...

Takes. so that's what resulted in catch and release, right? >> absolutely. and that's why -- this is not a new problem. you know, president bush dealt with it, president obama dealt with it, it has been going on for 16 years where these numbers of refugees and we should be talking about them as political refugees, not undocumented or migrants. when they make a political asylum claim, u.s. law calls them a refugee, and gives them certain rights. and -- but the system as you just said, it just isn't set up to deal with children who are with their parents, so prior presidents when the numbers got...

The governments have already said no. now are going to be able to run a database of against one or two states and see how many people are known aliens residing in the united states and also on the voter rolls. it's ever been done before. >> tucker: if the federal government would allow the states to check the integrity of their voter rolls, that suggest to me they wanted voter fraud to occur red with the other explanation? >> there were bureaucratic explanation so this would be too difficult. this is the federal government talking. our computer system isn't set up with the way the state wants ...

If any of those aliens are on our voter rolls? the governments have already said no. now are going to be able to run a database of against one or two states and see how many people are known aliens residing in the united states and also on the voter rolls. it's ever been done before. >> tucker: if the federal government would allow the states to check the integrity of their voter rolls, that suggest to me they wanted voter fraud to occur red with the other explanation? >> there were bureaucratic explanation so this would be too difficult. this is the federal government talking. our computer sy...