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Example, heather, you probably, you may be walking around with other kinds of concerns. but knowing that you are not going to be stopped and asked by a law enforcement official to present your citizenship status, that says something right there that i fly to arizona and i'm like, got to take my passport. my driver's license is not going to do me any good. maybe heather going down there isn't thinking about that. what does that say about these core issues of who we are as people. most people really don't understand the deepness that this goes and what it means, particularly to latinos and, of c...

>> shepard: of course. >> and she isn't running for mayor of chicago, like rahm emanuel was and isn't thinking of consulting contracts like other people are, all she wants is for him and them to succeed and there's always a difference of opinion and i know from covering nancy reagan, she got in such a spat with donald reagan, at one point in the middle of a fight he hung up on the first lady and i found out about it reported it on the air and reagan fired him. and that's how reagan got fired. >> shepard: i don't think i remembered that. >> it's true. i played my little part. >> shepard: so pro...

>> shepard: of course. >> and she isn't running for mayor of chicago, like rahm emanuel was and isn't thinking of consulting contracts like other people are, all she wants is for him and them to succeed and there's always a difference of opinion and i know from covering nancy reagan, she got in such a spat with donald reagan, at one point in the middle of a fight he hung up on the first lady and i found out about it reported it on the air and reagan fired him. and that's how reagan got fired. >> shepard: i don't think i remembered that. >> it's true. i played my little part. >> shepard: so pro...

And, you know, say, do i have a possibility. i didn't say i would win. i said i thought i could win. you have to believe it in your heart and your mind that you're ready. and i don't. i don't believe i'm ready. i've been a governor for 13 months. i was u.s. attorney for seven years before that. i just -- it's hard to express why don't you feel ready. it's a feeling. it's hard to describe feelings sometimes. but in my heart, i don't believe i'm ready to be president. so why would i run. >> so why would he keep talking about it? let's bring in senior fellow media matters, eric, and the reverend ...

He's not ready, but he knows he could win. >> i just look at the climate, and, you know, say, do i have a possibility. i didn't say i would win. i said i thought i could win. you have to believe it in your heart and your mind that you're ready. and i don't. i don't believe i'm ready. i've been a governor for 13 months. i was u.s. attorney for seven years before that. i just -- it's hard to express why don't you feel ready. it's a feeling. it's hard to describe feelings sometimes. but in my heart, i don't believe i'm ready to be president. so why would i run. >> so why would he keep talking abo...