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Utilize a much lower degree of technology. >> all ties inside the facility are clip-on ties. it's a security issue. if an inmate was to get hold of your tie and start pulling on t you've got a ready-made noose around your neck. for safety purposes we use clip-on ties. >> lieutenant williams is a 17 year veteran at the florida department of corrections and has spent the past seven years at santa rosa. now his 19-year-old son joe is prepared to follow in his footsteps. >> growing up i've seen my dad working every day, every kid wants to be like their father, i guess. i guess it just sort of fell...

Show, sir. >> good morning, y'all. >> how are we doing? how are we doing, first of all, as a country when it comes to homeland security from your vantage point someone who was there when it was at its hottest? >> joe, you know, one of the challenges i think from my perspective is we've grown from 180,000 to 240,000, and i'm not sure where we needed the additional 160,000. we needed more people at the borders and immigration and customs enforcement but i don't know that the messages that i get from some people that have been trying to work with and through the department of homeland security, i...

Suffering. clearly assad and russia are responsible. put that out there. the world could have done more. >> with all due respect, joe, i totally agree with what you say about this past administration but this now is in the lap of donald j. trump. this is in the lap of rex tillerson, general mattis and the names we're going to hear in the future. i would like to hear from president-elect trump about his foreign policy vision. i would like to hear about what he feels about the images coming out of aleppo. i understand what we saw happening in wisconsin yesterday. it's more than entertainment. we...

Nothing. that he was frozen and did nothing and was so driven by his to not be seen as george w. bush and have a wing in his presidential museum that says he's a peace maker and that he was frozen and did nothing. >> i get it. joe, you've said it. >> it's now the second hour of the show. you said it. could you keep talking about the failure of this administration. great. what's the next administration going to do? what's their policy going to be? i want to hear from them. there have been failures. we can talk about those failures until the sun goes down. at this point i think we need to move t...

>> all right. real quickly, are you surprised republicans actually won your state again? we've been calling it fools gold for 20 years. why was trump the right candidate to win pennsylvania the first one since 1988? >> well, joe, it's great question. actually predicted he might win a couple weeks in advance. my home community of erie, pennsylvania, a great place. lived there all my life. it's a blue collar town. when he appeared, he had thousands and thousands of people at a rally. when i traveled through the central part of the state, i think the people were just so disappointed. some are ang...