Open there that some of them do have to pay it back, but when pressed about this after giving that statement, was asked if he might permanently suspend these payments. he says he has to work within the law but left that possibility open. i don't think anybody, including him, wants to be in a position of clawing back bonuses already paid to these families. >> how did this all happen, jim? >> with recruiting officers, sp specifically the california national guard, ambitious recruiting goals to meet and offered bonuses to women, men and women, who weren't eligible for the bonuses, which is fraud....