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Every so-called cable network. are, like, an island on this show. it is every second, minute, hour, everyow day. it is not news anymore. none of it is news anymore. it is activism, call it whatever you want. i'm a talk show host. they never identify themselves as sh. i think it is an information crisis like we have never had in this country before. >> yes, that's true. there was a pullout last year where a majority of americans can't name even one neutral news source. the majority can't say, i could go there and find what i need. that's remarkable you say there is an information crisis. that's...

Bringing that kind of pressure and we'll see how it plays out on issues like gun control, a 90% issue and the voters are here and elected officials are over there. >> so governor, is it activism? is it social media as well as that, something that has changed the sense of things? >> well, i think all those things contribute to it, alex, and i think we do, too. the 24/7 news cycle. it's no secret we like controversy and stir things up. in the end, everyone who gets elected to office should understand, there are some things worth losing for. if you don't believe that, then don't run for office in...