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Given the facts that we have now, three hours and 10 minutes after it happened, what does it add up to what you say? >> it adds up to a new normal. a a disturbing new normal at that. isis, al qaeda, terror affiliated groups that use this tactic figured out post 9/11r that what's the sense of spending half a million to a million dollars developing a flight training program, learning how to fly a plane, if you can cause an equal amount of terror impact in nice, france, barcelona, berlin, and on new york city by running people down with a truck? the added benefit for these animals, these savages,...

He joins us tonight. given the fact set that we have now, three hours in 10 minutes after it happened, what does it add up to what you say? >> it adds up to a new normal. a disturbing new normal at that. isis, al qaeda, terror affiliated groups that use this tactic figured out post 9/11 that what's the sense of spending half a million to a million dollars developing a flight training program, learning how to fly a plane, if you can cause an equal amount of terror impact in nice, france, barcelona, berlin, and on new york city by running people down with a truck? the added benefit for these ani...

O one there was information they seem to have there was an effort to kill oswald after his arrest. that's not something we had seen, and it's pretty shocking evidence of potential incompetence. we also get more information that we knew about of all the different espionage and assassination efforts that the cia was involved with during this time, including the ongoing efforts to kill fidel castro which many people thought was part of what angered oswald who was a big supporter of castro. these are two big pillars so far. >> what i can't seem to get past this morning is for years the conspirac...

>> to phil's point. 17 guns in the room, explosives, in a hotel room. this was premeditated to the extreme. >> absolutely. there's a deviation from the narrative that he's been hearing, he's a quiet guy, controlled guy, his brother stated earlier he's not a gun guy. what we're seeing is something different. he's been in the hotel over multiple days. thousands of rounds in the hotel room. when they executed the search warrant on his house they found more weapons, explosives. there's something that doesn't add up here. to phil's point, this is an inactive investigation, more will come out. the o...

Who are not millionaires necess not all of them are millionaires. beyond that, there is the questi of does it add to the defici and by how much? he is still resisting this idea of 20%. he is talking about it, but resist it. he wants it to be 15. he wants to say he brought it down by half or more. we have a long way and you know the president doesn't always -- just because his r his aides have endorsed something, doesn' mean he is all the way there. >> you were on the hill througthis. you have northeast moderate republ state and local income taxes that disappear.