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Have on them. if the government shuts down, yes, their pay will stop. they will get backpay. as you just saw, the troops really do live paycheck to paycheck, many of them. >> how much does a typical soldier make? >> well, we have a graphic to show you on that. a typical army private first class who has been in the u.s. army for two years. we will put up the numbers. a staggeringly small amount of money, about $20,000 a year. these folks live paycheck to paycheck. defense secretary gates had some humor about the whole thing. >> as a historian, it alls occurred to me, the smart thing for governm...

The rebel army hasn't done this. the u.s. air force is doing the job. who goes in as an occupation army and occupation forces in libya? we're not going to do it ourselves. the germans can't. then you're down to the british and french. >> he said a matter of days, not weeks. has he lived up to that? >> the way it's rolling right now, it looks like it will be a matter of days. it alls on what happens in tripoli. >> john heilemann? >> i think that's right. i have sympathy for what secretary clinton said on "meet the press" over the weekend in terms of the broader debate here. it's hard for them t...

But doesn't the president drive some of that when he tweets about arnold schwarzenegger leaving "the apprentice"? >> he wants the media to cover the administration fully and fairly. some of the coverage is what i would call meanness. instead of everybody look out of the same pane of glass, you can still see what everybody else is saying. howie: one of the pane's of glass is the president's use of twitter. >> i think the people at large, it's a big country out there outside of the know-it-alls. they listened to the joint session address and they know he is a man of action and a man of impact. h...