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Hear the american people calling out? secure our border do your job. >> obviously i'm an immigrant, and i pay very close attention to what i call sentiment in the united states. i've got a feeling that a lot of people would like this settled, just get this done. the whole question of immigration reform has been dragging on for years and years and years, and certain buildup of feeling that, come on, come on, do something. get it behind us. move on. you don't feel that? >> absolutely i do. it's total failure. that's why canned understand the administration not doing something and listening to th...

>> would we give him some deal, some amnesty? >> we don't really call it amnesty. lying to congress is a crime. torturing prisoners is a very serious crime. there are lots of times when people violate the law and society decides for one way or another to look forward instead of backwards. mr. snowden's disclosures had been profoundly valuable to the country and the world. they've really changed the whole debate here, and i think there is much the united states could gain through conversation with him. >> i understand your point of view, and i wonder if you could understand those who believe th...

Obama. everybody thinks obama wants obama care to be his legacy. no. that can be fixed. you give amnesty to 20, 30, 40 million people, that changes the country forever. that is a legacy. >> i know you heard from a local sheriff about the president's push for immigration reform and his detractors call it amnesty. here is a little bit of that. watch. >> barely a week goes in that i'm not dealing with crime to the border. every time the government talks about amnesty it goes up 70%. somebody could walk across now and it's wide open. why isn't border control on the border. if amnesty goes through ...

>> some conservatives call your plan although it takes 13 years to become a citizen and you have to go through a lot of steps, call it amnesty and in the early presidential horse race polls, you have taken a hit. in april you led one poll with 19 percent followed by ryan, rand paul and christie. this month, paul loads, followed by christie and you are back in third place. has your support for comprehensive immigration reform hurt you with conservatives? >> obviously, you are citing a poll that shows that could be the case but that is not why i did it. fur are look at only what the future could...

Point where they're sitting in a room saying here's my plan, here's yours. let's find common ground. some people think if the president can't get almost everything he wants he's going to say no instead of signing something short of his goals instead of getting some bill he'll carry the issue that helped him in 2012 into 2014 and beyond. >> the big question is if the house passes something without some path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants is it going to pass the full congress? probably not. >> they have to do something. it's too important. as john well knows just because people are w...