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To get a conditional permanent residency that will be for eight years. they have to -- it's very stringent guidelines. i think you should all read the bill. it's very stringent guidelines. you have to do background checks, you've got to take a medical exam, you've got to make sure no previous criminal history. you've got to go through eight years with conditional permanent residency before you actually get your green card. and once you do that, if you want to become as citizen, as any green card holder, as i did, you have to wait an additional five years. so this is a 13-year process. and to c...

Out that this is far from being amnesty. amnesty is what ronald reagan did. you know, he says, you can come in now, go to your local police precinct, and get fingerprinted. you know, they're going to have to get a conditional permanent residency that will be for eight years. they have to -- it's very stringent guidelines. i think you should all read the bill. it's very stringent guidelines. you have to do background checks, you've got to take a medical exam, you've got to make sure no previous criminal history. you've got to go through eight years with conditional permanent residency before yo...

And these individuals did not make the decisions and that's why the executives in two administrations now have struggled with the legal protections for them and so the president is correct to give it back to congress. we have to solve it. we've got some time. i think coupled with it we have to have a border security, coupled with the issue, otherwise it's like a spill if you don't turn off the faucet, you've got a future problem. >> all right. couple things. one, you're completely correct they were brought into the country as minors most at the average age of 6 1/2 according to a study, most o...

Hardest thing for a commander in chief or for lawmakers to try to figure out, particularly when you are donald trump and you were elected by a base that is apoplectic about the notion of letting even these dreamers stay in this country because they consider it amnesty, and he has that said in his heart he thinks it should be okay for them to stay. >> david gergen, i know you feel a certain type of way about this -- i'll put out what you tweeted but i want you to listen to the white house press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders today, explaining the president's decision, then we'll talk. here i...

I'm the world's most conservative person. this isn't conservative, this is compassion. >> is it amnesty? >> i guess to a certain extent for a very limited number of people, it would be considered amnesty. but how do you tell a family that's been here for 25 years to get out? >> there you have the president six years ago. how do you tell a family who has been here for 25 years to get out? and here we are less than 24 hours, presumably, before the president pulls back on daca. this is a big story, potentially, for this white house. maybe the kind of magnitude that they haven't quite understood a...