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>> that's a great question. you have to take it case by case. for the malaysians, they spent more than $250,000 in just a week's time at the hotel at a key moment when the justice department was investigating the prime minister and his family for embezzling billions of dollars from a malaysian sovereign wealth fund and laundering that through the u.s. financial institutions to buy a yacht, art by monet and luxury real estate. that effort was ultimately unsuccessful, and the doj pursued pursued its civil forfeiture, and then you look at the saudis, and they and the emroddies were trying to gain...

>> well, to stuart's point, from my vantage point, we don't know what the payoff is because we don't have access to intelligence i gave rise to the search , and from a democracy point, as you and i have spoken many times about, laura, i take a long view. donald trump has had no accountability for -- two impeachments, the conspiracy giving rise to the january 6th insurrection, doing nothing, the cover-up, multiple states of fake electors try to use the justice department to bully people into stealing an election from the voters. american democracy could actually die in the next few years. we're...

Individual prosecutor puts himself above the law. yes, you can exercise discretion in an individual case, but that discussion has to be individualize in case specific. you cannot just say that you will not do certain offenses. >> so that's not what you are doing, you are saying. you are by signing that letter. -- he do still intend, should you be in a position to actually look at it case by case basis, is that right? >> yes, and i've said this on the beginning, where we are talking about the abortion law, that even though there is a right to privacy and even though that the loss was that the l...

President biden. and it was not stolen from president trump. and that is what we are hoping fellow conservatives will look at. all of us are people who believe in a limited government. believe in opportunity. and want that our fellow conservatives to look at this, and really carefully. and look to see, that we have gone through, it case by case. every one of the cases submitted, on behalf of president trump and found that they did not prove that the election was stolen. and, over the years, from 2016 election, where there were a lot of questions, sort of put into the ether, about whether the e...

Past? from a criminal perspective, was there anything that would have disqualified him from having that got on his person prior to the shooting. not a lot of anything i just said is going to do a lot of good for the victims and the people that were impacted by this today. but those are the types of questions, richard, that we still have at this point. >> tom, practically, help us out. the difference between person of interest versus suspects, and with that might mean for the process the law enforcement is going through? >> great question, it means different things to different communities. in ...