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50/50 chance right now on what would be released to the public, the earliest they could have it is on monday. remember, half of congress is out in west virginia. ainsley: that's right. brian: democrats continue to have a melt down about the president's first state of the union address. you saw their faces. you saw the grim looks. you saw they didn't stand up when the parents of a family who lost their child to ms-13 was given recognition for the courage to come forward and the need to push back on this international gang operation. but, again, it's a little confusing. we thought joe kennedy ga...

We are and he says no. with the dreamers, he has been all over the place. i don't think he has any idea what he wants. i think the white house itself is split. i think if people like stephen miller, who are whispering in donald trump's ear just fuel the flames of hate, fuel the flames of anger and bigotry. chain migration. that term itself is such a hateful term. we used to call it family reunification in the 1965 immigration act. that's what it was all about. it was kind of an act in which we wanted to help families reunify in the united states. but now by calling it chain migration that it's...

Criticism. is this a feature of white supremacy. >> i don't want to respond to other people's words. it acknowledges which is what 80% of americans believe, dreamers should be able to earn citizenship. >> tucker: that's what it gave, isn't it? >> you talked about this, you call it chain migration. people call it the family-based immigration system. i don't understand why if we agree dreamers should be able to stay, why should dreamers only be protected from deportation if we cut legal immigration. >> tucker: so you're wrong, most persons believe you ought to let the people who just got amnesty...

>> family reunification. they call it chain migration. that's really complicated. >> i don't think they get the votes. >> i don't think there is 50 votes for that. and i don't think you can do that in 17 days. >> i'm more optimistic about the good stuff. kasie, last question to you. do you think the good stuff will get through here? do you think it will get through, the dreamers' cause and not too much messiness? how it is looking right now? >> i do think, chris, that there is enough in theory, momentum around fixing this problem for the dreamers that really, i think just the realities is they...

Issue, there are now broader conversations about these other issues the white house has focused on. the white house calls it chain migration. democrats and activists and others will say that's a pretty callous way to describe family based immigration where people can come if they have a family member here. that's a huge, sweeping, potentially fundamental change to our immigration system that in many ways is the source of a lot of disagreement up here that's been thrown into the mix. the bipartisan agreement would say this will only deal with daca recipients. the white house doesn't want that. ...