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Response, of course. and a top official in the administration is cooperating fully with the doj's investigation. joining me now cnn's chief white house correspondent phil mattingly. phil, i'm eager to talk to you about this. because there are signs the white house is shifting strategy as this crisis is continuing to intensify. what's going on? is there truly a shift, recognition they didn't handle it the first time? >> i think there is a understanding they've been unsteady for the last eight or nine days. and that's maybe putting it charitably. and to some degree, what they have realize, or at...

The public library, so much of it, it is never going to withstand the test of time that is putting it charitably. >> it is absurd that they realize if they want to convince people of it they have to get to them when they're very, very young and they are not able to distinguish between fantasy and reality and that is why it is so important for them to brainwash the kids early and protect kids from the brainwashing. >> i teach high school and most days i come to work in stilettos and the reason why is so i can create an explicit place for

Elementary school, what kids have available in their school curriculum, so much of it is never going to withstand the test of time and that is putting it charitably. >> a lot of it, there's a lot of racial indoctrination, antiracist baby, critical races theory and that sort of thing, so much is general ideology and general ideology is so absurd they realize if they want to convince people that they have to get to them when they are very young and not able to establish between fantasy and reality and making commonsense judgments and that's why it is important to brainwash the kids early and imp...

And now he's learning that nafta, getting rid of it would be a shock to the system as he said. so, i think what we're seeing is a guy who is learning as he goes along and who is hearing from a lot of people. that being said, i always come to the table that a lot of what donald trump does is a distraction mode, is a distraction tactic for, you know, a bad press date. he's also very good at that. >> i guess you can look at it charitably, he's somebody who listens to other people and can alter his view, or he should have known that while he was running. >> harry true man was a neophyte, too, but ...