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Criminalize your observing that its true. because that is a challenge to the core of their faith. these are religious extremists. in order to win, they have to force everyone to lie, period. there's always a few that refuse no matter what to lie. one of those is riley gains. so last year riley gains was a collegiate swimmer at the university of kentucky. in an ncaa championship, she and her team mateds were forced to complete against a man called william thomas. there's a lot of news coverage of william thomas. but here's the truth. thomas was a male swimmer at the university of pennsylvania. ...

Legitimate political critique of what ari just described to call it cheating, to describe it as rigging the electorate. i wonder what you make of the fact that cheating and rigging the electorate still garners enthusiasm on the right. >> well, there's no question about it, that the stop the steal, the big lie has become a litmus test among republicans, and it fires up the base. but i would point out a couple of things about redistricting, and i'm not taking anything away from the critique you just heard. but you know, dave wasserman is looking at the numbers nationally and says, look, it is li...

Just fringe benefits. this is 15 years of engaging in tax evasion. and giving them apartments and cars and benefits and they cheated on their taxes to avoid doing that. so if you're a business owner, you get how wrong that is. you don't get to that in your business. vp your house paid for and claim it as a tax deduction. at bottom, what the president's name sake company was doing was a pattern of fraud, having it cheating. and having it revealed if he is prosecuted, and the attorney general and the d.a. put on the evidence, that is a come uppance of some sort. >> peter baker, the other great w...

Extra runner on base to start which traditionalists hate, there's a problem. we should start cracking down on this rule on the books because there is a fair argument. is it cheating? is it gamesmanship? some of the most elite pitchers in the game are caught up in this, at least allegedly, like justin verlander, garrett cole. what's going to happen if they start being sticklers, will we see more offense? is that the point? i wish they would just let players play, keep things consistent, keep the ball the same. i think that's a fair point to make as well. and mlb has this issue right now, and i ...

"foreign policy" magazine and "wired" magazine. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> jeru, who needs to fall back? >> a lot of people need to fall back, but i'm going to say aunt becky, lori loughlin, she needs to fall back because this whole college admissions scandal thing, not only is it illegal, not only is it cheating, but it reinforces the idea that the wealthy don't have to play by the same rules that everybody else plays by. and then not only that, i'm concerned the impact it's going to have on the children because -- i'm not talking about being embarrassed. because that's g...